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April 6, 2011 / fcapuno

League of Legends: Discussion – On Co-Op vs. AI, Normal Blind and Ranked Draft

Another discussion brought up due to a stray forum post! Hoo-rah! When will I stop doing this sort of buffon-ery?

Original Forum Post: http://bit.ly/i9vedo

… Just had a game where I had my setup pre-done for jungle Noct, and another player (Udyr) requested the jungle. Being the nice guy, I said “sure”, and respec’ed right before the game started.

The Udyr player (no player account names here) then proceeds to fail at the jungle path (death to minions), fails all ganks, feeds the opponents at all ganks, and then admits “This is my first time playing him”.

When I told him that he would be better off practicing in “vs Bots” games, his reply was “Sorry for ruining your non-ranked normal game”.

I am sorry, but if I am going to trying something new, such as jungling (which DOES require a lot of practice to do effectively), or a new character, or even both at the same time, I will not subject other people to my “less than my best” game. Inflicting my ineptness on other people WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT is almost as bad as intentionally trolling my own team. At the very least, a heads-up as to his not having played the champ before would have been appreciated, as it would have changed how I was going to play.

Mostly a gripe session, but I do want to know what people consider the purpose of “normal” games ever since “vs Bot” games were released.

Of course. This is coming from me and my stupid opinion and me copy-pasta-ing what I’ve written on that topic, but to me…

Normal Games are more designed for casual play and you can clearly see that simply due to Blind Picking. You’re placed in a room and hope to win with the team comp you have based on the skill you have with said champions against an unknown team. To me, it seems it was more designed on the idea that extensive knowledge of game mechanics is a luxury for this game mode. People just seem to learn how the game mechanics work on a meta level because it helps them either way.

Since this has no associated reward, prestige or basically a scoreboard associated with this type of game play, there isn’t an inherent need to try and win. Thus, you get these situations where people will try out champions in Normal Play for the first time.

No matter how hard you can argue this point, the bot games don’t prepare you for fighting actual humans. The bots overextend and don’t react well in certain situations or react in a way other humans would. This argument is sort of dead in a sense that, you can gain familiarity with a champion in bot games for how they move on a basic level, but to use them to their full potential you NEED to fight humans. There’s no other way around it.

But there isn’t really an alternative.

Ranked Play has a different dynamic where it’s Draft Pick. You’re able to ban characters and counter pick the other team. This is the game mode where you NEED the knowledge that you learned about the game from Normal Games about each character, the items and everything that makes the battlefield the way it is. Hence why the requirement to play a Ranked Game is you need to work your way up to level 30 through a series of Normal Games to build up that knowledge.

Unfortunately, this also brings up the issue of no one has prior experience with Draft Picking unless you played in several Custom Games with 5v5 pre-made teams before entering ranked, and that pretty much never happens. Thus, you fall short on the knowledge of counter-picking because you’re always running in blind.

Where League of Legends currently stands, there isn’t an alternative for these two types of game play. It’s just Blind Normal and Draft Ranked. There isn’t a middle ground where you gain experience in Draft Picking before ranked and there isn’t a Blind game play mode that has a scoreboard.

As for solutions? While we can expect other game modes to come out, I think League of Legends desperately needs a Blind Ranked and a Draft Normal mode currently than other game modes like ARAM or Capture the Flag. This would help close some of the skill gap between people who desire to play ranked and to those who simply enjoy normal games, and despite it creating new problems. A threshold for playing a Draft Normal game could be put in possibly at level 25 as preparation for Draft Ranked if need be as the 25-30 range is where you play a majority of your normal games, at least in my opinion. It’s open for discussion, really.

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